Composers Desktop Project Forum

hello again
i fixed the onedrive problem. turns out i just needed to put everything onto an external harddisc and delete onedrive. Soundshaper works now too, so you where probably right about it being stored in the cloud being the root of the problem.

thanks a lot for the help, and patience!

Aila

Hi, In many programs, you can save content to different file types. For example in Paint, you can save the image as a jpeg, bmp etc.  Soundshaper doesn't as yet do this sort of conversion when saving (exporting)  files. So if the output type is .wav you should select .wav as the file type, if .ana, select .ana and so on.  The message you quote comes up only if you're trying to save the output file to a different type. This applies to saving via the standard Windows selector and the SAVE box on the left. The output cell is colour-coded to help with file-types: white for wav soundfiles, aqua for spectral freq. files (.ana), mauve for pitch-data files (.frq), green for formant file (.for), red for binary envelope files (.evl), plus a few others. 

There is one exception to the above, though. If Option 5 ("Auto-FFT ana-wav") is set (and I think it normally should be), spectral output (ana files) are auto-converted to .wav for play and display purposes (although aqua for ana is still the cell-box colour). You can therefore select .wav as the output file-type to save to. Soundshaper does have a range of auto-conversions and maybe more should be applied when saving (I'll look into this), but some are not technically possible anyway, e.g. .for to .wav. It would be clearer if the file-types listed for saving could be narrowed to show only the relevant ones and I'll look into that for the next update.

You're welcome to send me any screenshots if this doesn't help. I'm not clear what you're referring to when you "open up windows to do processing it looks well out of whack" - maybe a screenshot would help here.

Robert

Hi, just trying to export sounds from Soundshaper and I'm getting an error message saying 'Saving to a different file type not possible'. As well, when I open up windows to do processing it looks well out of whack. Processing works fine, but nothing I make will export.

I'm running Windows 11 with a fresh CDP install, and I saw elsewhere on the forum someone else was having issues with Soundshaper and it was narrowed down to the .txt file in the \BIN folder - could that be what is happening here? If so where can I get a fresh .txt file from?

Sorry, I can't seem to attach screen shots for some reason, but can email them through if you need!

Thanks so much for your help!

When trying to launch Soundloom, I get following error:

Fatal Error in Wish
System Encoding

I think this is because my OS is cyrillic.
I remember that Trevor Wishart had special executable file replacement that fixed it on his website, but from what I recall it was provided for very old (by now) version of SoundLoom.
Perhaps new one could be compiled and provided with recent release?

Thanks.

For those, who like me, still uses "legacy" version of Windows 10 and was slightly confused by explanations in Installation Notes for CDP.
As it's a bit different from how it is done in up to date versions of Windows 10 (and different from pre-win10 experience as well), steps are following...

In upper field you can see "Path" variable, choose it and click "edit...", then it opens a table of various paths, from there you choose "create..." and input C:\CDPR8\_cdp\_cdprogs (or what you have instead) and then confirm it.

Hi Aila,
There are some instructions here about unlinking OneDrive:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/turn-off-disable-or-uninstall-onedrive-f32a17ce-3336-40fe-9c38-6efb09f944b0

I would suggest caution before tinkering with any Windows setup though! On my own machine, the link between its internal OneDrive folder and syncing this to the cloud got broken somehow and I'm happy to keep it that way, as I can still access the actual cloud OneDrive by signing in to my Microsoft account in a browser. I've no wish for all my junk files to be sent to the cloud and clog up my limited space there.

Previously, you seemed to have set your temp. folder within OneDrive and I really wouldn't recommend this. However, I can't say for sure that this is the root of your problem and it would still be helpful if you could send me one example of a file that won't load. There have been instances in the past where copysfx is not able to read the file and it's important that we can rule this out.

I had wondered initially that slow loading could be the issue, but on re-examining the code Soundshaper does check twice to see if the file is there - after a 1" delay, which is enormously long for a modern computer.
Robert

hello again,
after I read your previous message i've found out that my computer apperently stores everything automatically in Onedrive, including the folder i downloaded Soundshaper in. Im going to look into it next week.

im quite at a loss as to why it saves everything in Onedrive so if you've got any ideas how stop it i would greatly appreciate it, although i also understand that this isn't what this forum "is for"

Aila

Hi Aila, I still don't seem to have received your email. The current email address can be found on the Contacts page at www.soundshaper.net. Looking forward to getting this issue fixed! Robert

Hi Aila,
No email has come through yet (but sometimes these things are slow).
You've given me the path of your temp folder. I would like to check your CDP programs folder (go to Options | Settings, it should be listed there).
I'm not happy that the temp path has a space in it - could you not rename the \CDP ss\ bit to \CDPss\ ?
Also, your temp folder seems to be using OneDrive - for good reasons no doubt -  but I hope that's not slowing things down if it's syncing to the cloud. That might be the root of the problem.
Thanks,
Robert

I have sent you the soundfile in an email

I hope that it's these you meant,
CDP programs:
C:\Users\kostp\OneDrive\Desktop\Cdp ss\Temp