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PC Installation / Folder and file names in Soundshaper
« on: May 13, 2021, 02:59:17 PM »
It has been found that source files will not load in Soundshaper if "special characters" are used in folder names. The problem arose when a user installed CDP and Soundshaper in a folder called "Aplicações", which is Portuguese for "Applications".

Users should stick to Roman-alphabet characters (as used in English) when naming folders and files, i.e.: a-z (lower or upper case) and numbers 0-9.

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Announce / Re: Soundshaper 5.07 released
« on: April 09, 2021, 09:17:43 AM »
uge:
Thanks for the feedback. Really glad to know Soundshaper is still working in Parallels.

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PC Installation / Re: Completion Menu for CDP
« on: April 06, 2021, 09:44:48 PM »
There's nothing like that as far as I know. The console window will show you the usage and most of the parameter ranges and it's easy enough to have that open on the desktop.  Or you can have the online CDP documentation to hand, which is more accurate. But wouldn't it just be easier to use one of the interfaces, which will place all the parameters in the right order and write the scripts for you?

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General Board / Re: Having an issue with newmorph2
« on: November 13, 2020, 09:47:12 PM »
Hi James,

The normal order for most CDP programs is: infile outfile params, where the first parameter in this case is the datafile.
However, the program's usage (duplicated in the CDP documentation) is given as: infile datafile outfile etc.
If you change this to the normal order, the program should work (I think), i.e.:
  newmorph newmorph2 2 temp-w1.ana temp-morphed1.ana temp-pk2.txt 0 12 1 8

I've tested this with various files on the commandline.
However, while investigating this I hit a problem of my own, which is the persistent error message:
  ERROR: end of interpolation is beyond end of one of soundfiles.
Given that my start and end times were well within the limits of the ONLY soundfile, this doesn't make any sense.

Anyway, I hope the above commandline works for you. We'll change the documentation when every mode has been tested.

Robert




 

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General Board / Re: Release 7.0 functions missing (eg. in specnu)?
« on: October 17, 2020, 10:42:29 AM »
A new CDP release is being planned and it includes a revised SPECNU with RAND, SQUEEZE and SLICE 5 as documented, plus two new functions. As we will be looking for testers soon, I suggest you write to Archer and ask if you can test this revised version.

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PC Installation / 'Run as Administrator' issues
« on: October 17, 2020, 10:17:03 AM »
I recently bought a new PC with Windows 10 and had some fun (?) with administrator problems. I already had a version of Soundshaper on a disk I'd transferred from the old computer, and also imported a new build from another PC to the C drive. Neither would run or even close down as they weren't allowed to over-write various textfiles: "access is denied"!

The solution seems to be to tick a box called "Run as administrator". You have to create a shortcut to the .exe, right-click on the shortcut icon for its "properties", then from the pre-selected Shortcut tab choose Advanced, then tick "Run as administrator". This works, but produces an annoying User Account Control window every time you run the program.

Somehow I've created two shortcuts for the new version: one has "Run as administrator" and opens with the User Account Control (and fails otherwise), but the other (on the desktop) starts perfectly without "Run as administrator" being selected.

If anyone can explain this conundrum, I'd be grateful.

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ENVEL CREATE Error: Your description is quite correct. One (and sometimes the other) of these functions is not always selecting the mode button in the left-hand panel. Simply click on the empty mode button and the problem goes away, I  believe. 

I'm not sure why this is happening and will look into it: all Soundshaper parameter pages have at least one mode button, though there may not be an actual mode number in CDP (there is in this case).

There is an alternative way of creating envelopes in Soundshaper, based on the length of an actual soundfile. Load the file, then select Graph | New Breakpoint Graph. A new flat graph is created with an X-scale of the same length as the sound. Change the Y-scale to 0 - 1 with 0.5 as the middle point. You can then create whatever envelope shape you like and save that as a breakpoint file using whatever name and location you like.

If you think about how you might use this with the second envel create function, it seems a bit pointless to use a breakpoint file to create a breakpoint file. But the documentation points out that you can precede a level value with the letter 'e' to get an exponential curve. That could be useful, but don't try to edit this in the Graph Edit!





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Access Violation has been fixed in the latest version 5.07, now available for download.

I'll look into the aspects of Create Envelope File. (Pity that was not a separate thread and I would have caught it before releasing 5.07. Too bad.)

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Announce / Soundshaper 5.07 released
« on: May 09, 2020, 03:06:13 PM »
A new version of Soundshaper (5.07, 9 May 2020) is now available for download. This version fixes an Access Violation affecting TEXTURE processes and revises the Initial Setup and reading of the Settings file, which will be renamed automatically.

Version 5.06 (3 May) fixed a significant bug affecting processes with more than 10 parameters, including TEXTURE and GRAIN.

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The Access Violation affecting Texture Grouped (and Decorate) has been pinned down and fixed. I'll need to do many more tests to confirm this and will issue a replacement .exe as soon a possible.   

In the end, it wasn't anything to do with Texture Grouped. I assumed the data was being read in wrongly or parameter-related objects (like slider ranges) were being re-defined at the wrong time. No, it was re-writing the page title. So I put this later and all was well.  Just the sort of geeky Windoze-type of problem I do programming for. Or not.   

And why did it affect only Texture?
-- No idea. Computers are magic. Sometimes they behave like magic too.

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I also found the RESET possibility, but I found that it tended to give an A.V. every time (instead of just every other time). And I experimented a lot with snapshots; it is useful with this problem to save parameter sets via the snapshot buttons, but again I found that if recalled one when there was an A.V. I got a worse "crash".

However, I can confirm that your Reset + recall snapshot method works. (4th May) Thanks for the suggestion, rotagrad.

For now, I'm continuing to work with the code and explore other ways of doing things, which might hopefully avoid the problem altogether. 4th May update: I've now isolated where the problem occurs and roughly why -- also why it would not give an A.V. every other time.

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I've tracked down where the A.V. occurs, but not why. It's something to do with the initial display of the parameter page when it's re-visited to edit the parameters. The weird thing is it doesn't do it every time -- but every OTHER time, consistently.

However, this gives a workaround: click CANCEL to leave the parameter page and try again (double-click the cell again). This seems to work. A third edit will give another A.V. but the 4th should be OK and so on. You will also get one when you exit the program.

In my searches through the code, I found a different serious bug affecting all processes with >10 parameters, mainly TEXTURE and GRAIN. I've issued an interim .exe correcting this (5.06).

Meanwhile I'll continue to look for the cause of the A.V. You're correct, rotagrad, that the bug also affects TEXTURE DECORATE.  But the same workaround seems to work. Maybe whatever these two have in common will give a clue...

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Thanks for posting this bug. I've verified the problem you mention. I ran Grouped with a single input and the default values. Like you I got the access violation when I went to edit the parameters. I then cancelled and tried again; this time I got the edit boxes but the values were all 0. I also tried recalling a preset and again I got the violation.

Access violations can be quite tricky to track down, but usually occur from impossible values, like accessing a slider value beyond its declared range, for instance. I'll take a close look at the code here and see if I can track down anything sloppy in that regard. The re-setting of values to zero may give a clue. Grouped used to work OK, so I can also compare old code with the current version.

Robert - Author, Soundshaper.

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General Board / Re: SoundShaper problem win10 64bit
« on: April 08, 2020, 09:18:04 AM »
Sonora, Thanks for getting in touch by email and thanks for your patience.

Unfortunately, the problems are still unresolved (at 8 Apr.). The program was not reading the CDP programs folder correctly from the configuration file, despite the fact that the file was correct and the folder was there. It was also not shutting down correctly. Both of these issues need further investigation, though neither has arisen in other installations, as far as I know. While we were exchanging emails, you reported that you had installed Soundshaper successfully on another Win10 computer. I have also tested it recently on 3 Win10 64-bit machines, one Win10 32-bit, one Win7 64-bit and one Win7 32-bit.

The problem may have something to do with the fact that Soundshaper is a 32-bit program running, in this case, on 64-bit Windows. Having said that, Windows automatically runs such programs using its built-in emulator WOW64, so in theory issues should not arise. You also tried running it in Win7 mode, without success. Re-building Soundshaper in native 64-bit would be possible, but could require a lot of work -- I'll look into this.

We will continue to communicate and experiment with other solutions and report back to the forum if we solve the problems.

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General Board / Re: SoundShaper problem win10 64bit
« on: April 03, 2020, 09:56:43 PM »
Mario, can you email me with this problem to:  mail [at] ensemble-software.net ? The problem is not likely to be Windows 64-bit or robocopy, so I'll need to get more detail from you and look into this further. I'll be happy to post a reply when we get it fixed.  Robert

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