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General Board / Re: GRAINMILL & BRKEDIT
« Last post by simonk on May 10, 2023, 08:41:41 AM »
Hi Otis,
I'm pretty sure  that they are PC only, sadly as Grainmill is fun.
I have an old version if Win7 running on VMware that ~can~ run it, but to go there & fiddle around sucks some of the joy out.

I know I shouldn't really be saying this in the CDP forum, but other granular apps are available, especially given your very tight time constraints.

Meanwhile, there are many granular functions within the CDP system. MODIFY SAUSAGE & MODIFY BRASSAGE might suit you.

Have a look through this :
http://www.ensemble-software.net/CDPDocs/html/cgrogrns.htm

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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by Robert Fraser on May 09, 2023, 11:04:19 PM »
Glad you got this working, but in general there can be a problem with some sound sources not having the "right" kind of header for CDP. Archer Endrich puts it like this:
"One problem that you may encounter is CDP not recognising an input soundfile when it has been made by some other software. This can be caused by non-standard anomalies in the wav header of the soundfile made by the other software. The problem can be rectified by making a CDP copy of this sound with CDP's COPYSFX. This can be run from the Command Line (copysfx infile.wav outfile.wav and see Usage for the various options), or via Soundshaper : Menu – Edit/Mix > SF UTILS > COPY. (COPYSFX is not available in a Soundloom menu.) "

As Simon suggested, run sfprops on the source file and see what it says about the header.  Normally CDP will retain the type (output=input), so I'm guessing the problem would have been with the source sound. 

Robert
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General Board / Re: are there any envelop-data txt file templates?
« Last post by Robert Fraser on May 09, 2023, 10:52:34 PM »
In Soundshaper I have a default set of values for the fracture envelope:
;time     t    l    t     l      t     l      t     l      t      l        t      l       t    l
0.00       0.0 0  0.15 0.3  0.3 0.5  0.5 1.0   0.65 0.5   0.80 0.3   1.0 0
8.00      0.0 0  0.15 0.3  0.3 0.5  0.5 1.0   0.65 0.5   0.80 0.3   1.0 0

The first value is the time within the soundfile for the envelope to begin. (As you can see, both lines have the same values: not very adventurous!)
You then need 7 pairs of time-within-the envelope, and level-for-that-time, labelled t and l above. So we have an envelope stretched over 1" starting and ending at level 0 (they must start at 0), rising to full level 1/2-way (t 0.5, l 1.0), then decaying again. I would guess that if the envelope was spread out so that the last t overlaps the time value on the next line, it would be rejected, but I don't know.
Anyway, the above works, even if a bit basic. I'm sure you'll be able to make more interesting changes!
(BTW, I can't guarantee the comment line ;time etc. I just put it here to show the structure of the file)
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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by OHT on May 09, 2023, 07:08:51 PM »
thanks for replying so quickly!

i have de- and then re- installed the program and know its working again. no idea what went wrong.

and your right about other programs i just like soundloom so much :)

cheers
otis
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General Board / Re: GRAINMILL & BRKEDIT
« Last post by OHT on May 09, 2023, 07:05:10 PM »
does anyone know where i can find it on mac?

that would be really helpfull!
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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by simonk on May 09, 2023, 05:44:33 PM »
Hi Otis,
Try running your new output file through SFPROPS & see what it reports.

Does the file play in any other appication?

I'm assuming your soundcard/device can handle & is configured for muti-channel outputs & you've tested all that.

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Are you sure that you must use the CDP system for this?
You are in a very complicated area that  will suck time hugely just to run through permutations of  a single event.

There are quite a number of other sound diffusion apps around these days that you might use given your tight time schedule.

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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by OHT on May 09, 2023, 03:58:22 PM »
Hi Simon

Yes ive always used mono files.
and now multi channels texture also stopped working  :-[
it creates a file but im unable to play it.
even when i save it there is just no sound i've tried different files and configurations but that doesn't change anything.

any idea why that might be? it is a bit of an urgent matter as im to present my piece in school in two weeks time.

thanks for helping

cheers
otis
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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by simonk on May 09, 2023, 07:41:25 AM »
Hi Otis,
Is that a mono file ?
It should be for Mode 1
If you want Mode 2 you probably should look into setting the appropriate multi-channel  header for you useage.
Have a look here

http://www.ensemble-software.net/CDPDocs/html/cmcrefmn.htm#CHANNELX

SFPROPS will report details on files & then there are several utilities to setup headers etc.

hth
Simon
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General Board / Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by OHT on May 08, 2023, 09:32:46 PM »
hi :)

i keep getting this message when i try to use multichannel shred:

Cannot Read The Header Of The Output File 'cdptest0.wav'
The CDP Process May Not Have Functioned Correctly

followed by:

DoOutputParse failed

anyone experiencing the same? and maybe even knows how to solve this problem?

cheers

otis

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General Board / are there any envelop-data txt file templates?
« Last post by OHT on May 08, 2023, 06:00:54 PM »
Hi

i have yet another newbie question:
are there any envelop-data txt file templates? im trying to use fracture for a multi channel piece i need to present in 2 weeks and i just cant get the envelop-data txt file right. no matter what i do i get various error messages  :-[

if someone could provide me with a template that would be great help!

otis
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