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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by Robert Fraser on May 09, 2023, 11:04:19 PM »
Glad you got this working, but in general there can be a problem with some sound sources not having the "right" kind of header for CDP. Archer Endrich puts it like this:
"One problem that you may encounter is CDP not recognising an input soundfile when it has been made by some other software. This can be caused by non-standard anomalies in the wav header of the soundfile made by the other software. The problem can be rectified by making a CDP copy of this sound with CDP's COPYSFX. This can be run from the Command Line (copysfx infile.wav outfile.wav and see Usage for the various options), or via Soundshaper : Menu – Edit/Mix > SF UTILS > COPY. (COPYSFX is not available in a Soundloom menu.) "

As Simon suggested, run sfprops on the source file and see what it says about the header.  Normally CDP will retain the type (output=input), so I'm guessing the problem would have been with the source sound. 

Robert
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General Board / Re: are there any envelop-data txt file templates?
« Last post by Robert Fraser on May 09, 2023, 10:52:34 PM »
In Soundshaper I have a default set of values for the fracture envelope:
;time     t    l    t     l      t     l      t     l      t      l        t      l       t    l
0.00       0.0 0  0.15 0.3  0.3 0.5  0.5 1.0   0.65 0.5   0.80 0.3   1.0 0
8.00      0.0 0  0.15 0.3  0.3 0.5  0.5 1.0   0.65 0.5   0.80 0.3   1.0 0

The first value is the time within the soundfile for the envelope to begin. (As you can see, both lines have the same values: not very adventurous!)
You then need 7 pairs of time-within-the envelope, and level-for-that-time, labelled t and l above. So we have an envelope stretched over 1" starting and ending at level 0 (they must start at 0), rising to full level 1/2-way (t 0.5, l 1.0), then decaying again. I would guess that if the envelope was spread out so that the last t overlaps the time value on the next line, it would be rejected, but I don't know.
Anyway, the above works, even if a bit basic. I'm sure you'll be able to make more interesting changes!
(BTW, I can't guarantee the comment line ;time etc. I just put it here to show the structure of the file)
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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by OHT on May 09, 2023, 07:08:51 PM »
thanks for replying so quickly!

i have de- and then re- installed the program and know its working again. no idea what went wrong.

and your right about other programs i just like soundloom so much :)

cheers
otis
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General Board / Re: GRAINMILL & BRKEDIT
« Last post by OHT on May 09, 2023, 07:05:10 PM »
does anyone know where i can find it on mac?

that would be really helpfull!
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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by simonk on May 09, 2023, 05:44:33 PM »
Hi Otis,
Try running your new output file through SFPROPS & see what it reports.

Does the file play in any other appication?

I'm assuming your soundcard/device can handle & is configured for muti-channel outputs & you've tested all that.

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Are you sure that you must use the CDP system for this?
You are in a very complicated area that  will suck time hugely just to run through permutations of  a single event.

There are quite a number of other sound diffusion apps around these days that you might use given your tight time schedule.

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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by OHT on May 09, 2023, 03:58:22 PM »
Hi Simon

Yes ive always used mono files.
and now multi channels texture also stopped working  :-[
it creates a file but im unable to play it.
even when i save it there is just no sound i've tried different files and configurations but that doesn't change anything.

any idea why that might be? it is a bit of an urgent matter as im to present my piece in school in two weeks time.

thanks for helping

cheers
otis
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General Board / Re: Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by simonk on May 09, 2023, 07:41:25 AM »
Hi Otis,
Is that a mono file ?
It should be for Mode 1
If you want Mode 2 you probably should look into setting the appropriate multi-channel  header for you useage.
Have a look here

http://www.ensemble-software.net/CDPDocs/html/cmcrefmn.htm#CHANNELX

SFPROPS will report details on files & then there are several utilities to setup headers etc.

hth
Simon
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General Board / Problems with multichannel shred
« Last post by OHT on May 08, 2023, 09:32:46 PM »
hi :)

i keep getting this message when i try to use multichannel shred:

Cannot Read The Header Of The Output File 'cdptest0.wav'
The CDP Process May Not Have Functioned Correctly

followed by:

DoOutputParse failed

anyone experiencing the same? and maybe even knows how to solve this problem?

cheers

otis

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General Board / are there any envelop-data txt file templates?
« Last post by OHT on May 08, 2023, 06:00:54 PM »
Hi

i have yet another newbie question:
are there any envelop-data txt file templates? im trying to use fracture for a multi channel piece i need to present in 2 weeks and i just cant get the envelop-data txt file right. no matter what i do i get various error messages  :-[

if someone could provide me with a template that would be great help!

otis
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Mac installation / Re: TEXTURE: where is the \txpack folder?
« Last post by OHT on May 08, 2023, 05:45:08 PM »
Archer has also sent me the texture workshop!

thanks for helping out Simon <3

all the best
Otis
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