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Composition => Composition => Topic started by: panjethro on October 24, 2014, 08:12:50 PM

Title: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: panjethro on October 24, 2014, 08:12:50 PM

Hello,

I have downloaded Soundloom and it seems that it works fine. I am new and it is the first time I work with that specific software. Could you please help me and point out places for tutorials etc.? I tried the tutorials in the CDP site but the links are not working.

Thank you in advance,

Panos

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: lynx on October 25, 2014, 03:55:06 AM

Welcome to CDP!  The official links to the tutorials has been the subject of a running thread on this forum.  (You are not the first to have difficulty!)

No matter, the kind administrator of this forum now hosts the tutorials here:

http://unstablesound.net/downloads/CDPWorkshop1.zip

http://unstablesound.net/downloads/CDPWorkshop2.zip

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: panjethro on October 25, 2014, 08:41:57 AM

Thank you lynx!

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: smoothstones on February 05, 2015, 07:01:37 AM

problem in dos for windows vista

distort repeat input.wav output.wav 14 * *

where the two * are, there are two parameters

how do you enter those parameters?

been getting error messages

thanks

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: simonk on February 07, 2015, 06:41:32 PM

Hi,
Its not quite clear from your mail if you are following the tutorials using a dos box.
Assuming you are, the two parameters are just added at the end with a space in between.
The parameters they address in this prg is cyclecount & skipcycles

so
distort repeat input.wav output.wav 14 -c* -s*

where * is a number. which number is where the fun starts. Try 5 100

Check the distort repeat documentation for more info

hth
Simon

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: smoothstones on February 11, 2015, 12:34:53 PM

thanks simon, it was in the command line on windows vista

-c & -s was the correct answer

distort repeat input.wav output.wav 12 -c100 -s30

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: smoothstones on February 15, 2015, 12:42:55 PM

What's the best way to create a loop in a batch file?

blur blur input.ana output*.ana **

I need a loop to repeat the process from the lowest to the maximum possible amount of **.
Every time the loop runs it should create a new output file.

For example:
blur blur input.ana output1.ana 1
blur blur input.ana output2.ana 2

It should loop from the lowest **integer to the highest. It uses the same input each time and creates many variations. I know it will take up gigabytes of diskspace depending on the file size of the input.

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: lynx on February 15, 2015, 09:51:33 PM

A batch FOR loop might be what you need.  Take a look at this bit of documentation:

http://ss64.com/nt/for_l.html (http://ss64.com/nt/for_l.html)

So for an incremental run of BLUR BLUR with windowing from 1 to 100, you could run this directly from a CMD box or batch file:

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FOR /l %i in (1,1,100) DO blur blur input.ana output%i.ana %i
I know you're a command-line user, but I'll mention that Sound Loom integrates similar functionality with "Suck It & See".

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: smoothstones on February 16, 2015, 02:39:00 AM

Thank you very much Lynx, that's fantastic.

Is it possible to have 3 loops running together?

distort repeat input.wav output.wav A -cB -sC

(loops for A, B, and C)

Perhaps a lot more complex?

ss64.com looks like a really great website too. I just checked it but I couldn't find anything about multiple loops.

Title: Re: Tutorials and newbie
Post by: lynx on February 16, 2015, 05:31:21 PM

By "nesting" FOR loops, it is possible to iterate through more than one loop.

Mention of this possibility is made here:
http://www.robvanderwoude.com/for.php

Using your example with DISTORT REPEAT, we might do something like this to generate a lot of files:

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FOR /L %A IN (1,1,10) DO FOR /L %B IN (1,1,128) DO FOR /L %C IN (1,1,20) DO distort repeat input.wav output%A-%B-%C.wav %A -c%B -s%C

Remember that within a batch file, there must be two "%" for each variable substitution (e.g., %%A).  Entered directly from the command-line, one substitution character is fine.

While not a whole lot more complex, techniques like this make it easy to generate more files than you will possibly need (or bother listening to).  It might be better to take one or two parameters at a time, stepping through with larger increments--as 1 will be very fine for some processes--and try to systematically identify "zones" of interest.  Having identified a zone between, say, 350 and 500 for a process, you can step through with more precision with a single loop and audition the results.